Ubuntu 8.04 on Pavilion HDX9210TX, epilogue

Frustrations with Vista may have spilled over to the Ubuntu side of the house. My friend said he started to get screen flickers and acceleration problems with his giant Pavilion running 8.04, plus program crashes and some other problems, and out of frustration has reinstalled Vista. Personally I don’t blame Linux, but instead on the machine itself.

Of course, it’s not the end of the line. Without delving into anyone’s psychology, I have a feeling Ubuntu might make a return at some point in the future. However, I don’t think he’s likely to keep that “laptop,” since it has supposedly misbehaved in two different operating systems now.

If that’s the case, I can only make a few vicarious conclusions.

First, I know for a fact that running 3D applications (i.e., Second Life) on that machine with the desktop effects enabled caused flickering and artifacts. To be fair, I also get flickers and artifacts when trying to run 3D applications and desktop effects at the same time. I have a feeling that might have been the problem he experienced. It would be an unfortunate mistake to think the software was failing when in fact it was simply overtaxed hardware or conflicting software demands.

As an added complication, he started tampering with the drivers, and by “tampering” I mean uninstalling packages. Of course, that left him with a 640×480 screen with no options to adjust that, and without the general know-how (he’s very new to Linux), that can be a very dangerous situation. (And with no Internet connection and no mentor around to convince him not to do that, Vista was an accident waiting to happen.)

On the other hand, someone who tweaks that casually is actually a perfect candidate for Linux.

But if all my deductions are wrong, and it is misbehavior in two OSes, then I call trump and blame the hardware. If it really is crashing and it really is that erratic, then my experience would say deficient components. And in that case, it seems like returning it to the HP mothership would be the next step.

Unfortunately it’s not my call. He’s sufficiently frustrated with it to pass it on to a new owner, and that’s not me. I would find it vaguely amusing for a little while, but somewhat overkill. I do better staying in the sub-1Ghz domain. It feels like home. :)

Ubuntu 8.04 on Pavilion HDX9210TX, happy update 1a

Just a note: We overlooked the headphone jack when we were troubleshooting the sound on that giant Pavilion, and wouldn’t you know it, there’s sound coming through that lovely little port! So while the speakers and the subwoofer and so forth are not participating, there is sound output available.

Personally I’m overjoyed since it means it’s a possibility that the owner will keep Ubuntu on that machine. Even if it’s not 100 percent ideal, it’s working, and that’s a good sign. More news at 11.

Ubuntu 8.04 on Pavilion HDX9210TX, part 1

Another infuriated Vista owner tries an Ubuntu setup. One of the new employees in the office has a gorgeous HDX9210TX, a Hong Kong model of a media center “laptop,” although it can hardly be called a laptop. With a 20-inch screen and a weight of more than 12 pounds, it’s very much a desktop replacement but hardly a portable computer. You could call it that, but then you’d have to call my old SX-64 a portable computer too, and it was probably twice as heavy.

But Vista was failing for most of the games the owner wants to play — things like Second Life, World of Warcraft and a few others I never heard of. Stuttering graphics, program crashes at regular intervals, poor video acceleration and slow overall performance. It’s a classic case of garbage software on cutting-edge hardware.

And beautiful hardware too. Very sleek and fancy. Dual core, dual hard drive, 3Gb RAM, fingerprint reader, touch-panel buttons, etc., etc. You’ve probably already seen the specifics page.

Vista wasn’t doing the job though, and the owner was very irritated (I would be too, if I spend US$2000 on a machine that sputtered while running Second Life). It took a very long time (comparatively) to start up, and the one-shot recovery disk allowance took almost two hours and two DVDs to complete (I suggested a set of backup discs, since it’s possible Ubuntu just won’t fit. And these days, retailers don’t give you installation CDs any more. I mean, you might pirate them or something :roll: ).

But who cares about Vista anyway? We tried an 8.04 live CD first, and it seemed happy enough. A full installation went very quickly and very successfully. Performance under Ubuntu is fantastic: I finally found a machine that can get to a stock Ubuntu Gnome desktop in 30 seconds. Of course, my puny 550Mhz running Crux still leaves it in the dust, but that’s another story. :twisted:

Best of all, the video drivers work perfectly — native screen resolution on first boot, and the proprietary ATI drivers have the X2600 running with excellent acceleration, on that giant 20-inch screen. It’s amazing to watch, really.

The only stickler thus far is the sound — as in, there isn’t any. I looked at lspci very briefly and it looked like the sound card was part of an integrated setup — I don’t remember the specifics and since Ubuntu didn’t find the driver on its own, it’s possible that it’s obscure or unsupported right now. I have some homework to do on that.

And that could be a dealbreaker on a machine that’s intended as a gaming rig and an entertainment station. The Second Life Linux client runs beautifully, but without sound. There are some other games that will need adjusting or native clients or just run through Wine. But those are best sorted out once the sound issue is solved (for better or for worse), since Wine won’t know what to do with the sound, unless Ubuntu can figure out what to do with the sound.

Otherwise, stay tuned as this one develops. If anyone has experience with those machines or can find the audio modules or drivers, I’d be highly indebted. :D

An interview with Wybiral

The denizens of the Programming Talk forum are a tough breed — able, intelligent, opinionated and vociferous. Wybiral is a good example of all those points: A freelance Python programmer and something of a gun-for-hire, an atheist and a music lover, a coach for new programmers and a veteran of Windows as far back as 3.1. And although he’s not part of the Ubuntu machine per se, he does have “code in the repos” as he says it, which means you might be using something he created. Here’s more from the man himself.

Tell as much as you’re willing about your “real” life — name, age, gender, location, family, religion, profession, education, hobbies, etc.

In “real” life, my name is Dave/David/Davy. I’m a vegan, a male (engaged, sorry ladies), and a dedicated atheist who sees the universe being roughly around the significance of Conway’s Game of Life.

I’m currently freelancing Python programming, but I’ll take just about any job if the pay is proportionate to the amount of work. I have some college education, which I plan to continue very soon, but I’m otherwise self-educated.

My hobbies right now include Python and Lisp programming, hiking, cooking, and playing guitar. I have a dog (German Shepherd) named Scrappy and a cat named Dyna. I’m also a really big fan of music (of all different kinds, typically very energetic types such as metal).

When and how did you become interested in computers? in Linux? in Ubuntu?

I became interested in computers when I was about 11, when I got an old machine with Windows 3.1 on it. After playing with my share of solitaire and MS Paint (we didn’t have the Internet back then), I found QBasic lodged somewhere in there, which sparked my interest in programming (it had the source for Nibbles and Gorillas, and at that age making games seemed like the coolest thing to do).

I essentially learned BASIC from the help files and the sources included. QBasic then led me down a dark and lonesome road involving other forms of BASIC, C and assembly.

My interest in Linux came from a general frustration with Windows about four years ago. The first “distro” I tried was Puppy Linux and I was extremely impressed by how small, fast, and flexible Linux was.

From there I shopped around a bit, eventually landing on Ubuntu, mainly for its low maintenance and high compatibility — not that the community didn’t play a large role in that too. After Ubuntu, and lots of inspiration from some really intelligent users in the forums and IRC, I was inspired to learn Python, and more recently Lisp (quite an improvement from my Win3.1 QBasic days).

When did you become involved in the forums? What’s your role there?

I first came to the forums for support (when I was still a complete Linux n00b) but eventually I found Programming Talk, which is mostly where I reside now. My role, at the moment, seems to be the occasional Python support, in addition to attempting to educate low-level programmers who think the life of a programmer is best spent hassling with pointer arithmetic and bit manipulation (which it is not, unless you’re Linus Torvalds, but that seems to be a common opinion of new programmers).

Are you an Ubuntu member? If so, how do you contribute? If not, do you plan on becoming one?

I’m not an Ubuntu “member” (I don’t think so anyway), but I like to think that I do contribute, mostly in the form of support for third party developers, and some of the chunks of code I’ve written have ended up in the repos. But, no, I don’t actively contribute to the actual distribution.

What distros do you regularly use? What software? What’s your favorite application? Your least favorite?

The only “distro” I use at the moment is the plain-old Ubuntu. As far as software goes, Firefox is the most used application on this computer by far; following that would probably be gedit, eclipse, and emacs. Occasionally I’ll use GIMP or Blender when I need graphics of some kind, and audacity when I need to record something, but mostly I’m a very boring user who spends most of his time typing out code and reading things online.

What’s your fondest memory from the forums, or from Ubuntu overall? What’s your worst?

I’m not sure that I have a single “fondest memory”, but I’ve met a lot of interesting people as a result of the forums (most of the cool ones hang out in #ubuntu-programming) and have had some very enlightening conversions, if that counts. My worst memory was the result of a few moderators thinking that the UF law extends beyond the forums and the official IRC channels. … Silly moderators. :P

What luck have you had introducing new computer users to Ubuntu?

I’ve introduced quite a few people to Ubuntu. Firstly, my fiance, a handful of my friends, as well as some odd folks I’ve encountered on various other programming forums and IRC channels. Typically, all you have to do is tell them to try the live CD, it’s all downhill from there. The price tends to be a huge factor as well.

What would you like to see happen with Linux in the future? with Ubuntu?

To be honest, I’d like to see better package management. The package system is great, but too often I find myself having to manually install some development files and build things myself because the package somehow exploded.

Better package support would be a plus too; I hate being two or three versions behind the most recent releases. Unfortunately, I’m not even sure there’s an easy way to fix this problem, as it’s more of an issue with the third-party developers than Ubuntu or Debian itself.

If there was one thing you could tell all new Ubuntu users, what would it be?

Before you ever try to build something … please, do a sudo apt-get install build-essential first. And don’t ask which language to start with in the programming forum, just use Python ;)

Wybiral has a home page of sorts, but you can also follow his user profile page to get a better idea of the man at the other side of the keyboard. For more interviews with staff and community members, read Nine simple questions.

An XO-1 is really just a great big USB 2.0 port

In return for my assistance installing Ubuntu 8.04 on my friend’s Asus W3J, I was given permission to peruse a 500Gb external drive of DVD rips, for future viewing enjoyment. It was rather like being given the chance to borrow an entire movie library.

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Ubuntu 8.04 on an Asus W3J

After something like 30 or 35 Ubuntu 8.04 installations, putting Hardy on a friend’s Asus W3J was a piece of cake. But I don’t take credit for that. It worked amazingly well, and all I did was press a few buttons.

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Debian on 550Mhz Celeron, 192Mb

This isn’t a review so much as a gleeful and giddy note of excitement about putting Debian on my Thinkpad after I ran aground with some wireless issues in Arch. Remembering the lightning fast (comparatively, of course) performance of Debian on the K6-2, I was rather pleased with myself when I remembered I wanted to try it on the 550Mhz Celeron.

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Wireless failures in Arch

In between troubleshooting the Wireless Router of the Gods, I ran into a few unforeseen obstacles with wireless access in Arch.

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The end of the wireless saga

Yes, it’s the end, and I wish I could say it’s a happy one. But unfortunately, it’s not. A return trip to the electronics store, the assistance of an interpreter and another US$250 couldn’t cure the wireless obstacles I faced in sharing my connection with my co-workers.

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The XFCE shortlist yields promising fruit

It’s important to remember that Xubuntu is not XFCE. What I mean by that is, Xubuntu uses XFCE as a desktop environment, but adds a lot more from ordinary Ubuntu that doesn’t technically appear in the XFCE playbook.

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