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	<title>Comments on: Five generations of junk</title>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/five-generations-of-junk/#comment-47972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My pleasure! That sounds like a fantastic machine -- I&#039;m a bit jealous! Send an update every now and then! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pleasure! That sounds like a fantastic machine &#8212; I&#8217;m a bit jealous! Send an update every now and then! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: darkduck</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do you need same version of Linux on all of them? I would install different versions. That way you can have more reasons to complain, if this is your aim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you need same version of Linux on all of them? I would install different versions. That way you can have more reasons to complain, if this is your aim. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: totalizator</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/five-generations-of-junk/#comment-47960</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been looking around for a 486 machine for months and finally I&#039;ve found one on an internet auction. It&#039;s an exotic machine labeled as &quot;Olivetti Echos 48 color plus&quot; laptop. The specs are: 486 DX4 100MHz processor, 16MB RAM, 540MB HD, 3,5&quot; FDD, 2xPCMCIA slots, active color display, it&#039;s pink (well, sort of), has German (QWERTZ) keyboard layout and has been manufactured in 1994. As if it weren&#039;t enough the Olivetti is an Italian company but the laptop is assembled in Korea. Absolutely incredible ;). Oh and the original price in 1994 was $4038 USD. Here is an article I&#039;ve found, introducing Echos 44 model (same look, older processor and smaller HD): http://issuu.com/adpware/docs/mc144?mode=embed&amp;layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&amp;showFlipBtn=true&amp;pageNumber=206 (unfortunately it&#039;s in Italian!).

So far, I&#039;ve been able to get rid of Windows 98 which previous owner put inside (quite operational) and install a Debian Woody (3.0). Everything thanks to a six (sic!) magic floppy installer images from Debian archive (archive.debian.org) and a Xircom RealPort PCMCIA LAN card. The installation was unbelievably straight forward and the only inconvenience was changing the default apt sources (adding archive.* prefix to it). I&#039;ve ended up with a ready to go ~100MB Debian install which after boot and logging in shows that the RAM usage is mere 3MB, swap usage 0MB (fully connected to the Internet). 

Lately I&#039;ve even done dist-upgrade to Debian Sarge (3.1) and I think I&#039;ll stick with that for longer as everything works just right. The machine is perfect for a dumb terminal as the only spinning thing is a hard disk and the power supply is labeled as 1,5A@21W max output. I&#039;ve been able to run X on it with IceWM but despite using only 7MB RAM and ~20MB for SWAP it is too slow for comfortable use.

Still, I think that it&#039;s a great machine for which I can find many useful tasks on a daily basis (I&#039;m not kidding). It&#039;s unbelievably small - maybe a bit thicker than a modern netbook and proves how bloated modern laptops have become. It&#039;s a great experience and a big lesson messing with hardware that old. Thanks for inspiration K.Mandla!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking around for a 486 machine for months and finally I&#8217;ve found one on an internet auction. It&#8217;s an exotic machine labeled as &#8220;Olivetti Echos 48 color plus&#8221; laptop. The specs are: 486 DX4 100MHz processor, 16MB RAM, 540MB HD, 3,5&#8243; FDD, 2xPCMCIA slots, active color display, it&#8217;s pink (well, sort of), has German (QWERTZ) keyboard layout and has been manufactured in 1994. As if it weren&#8217;t enough the Olivetti is an Italian company but the laptop is assembled in Korea. Absolutely incredible <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Oh and the original price in 1994 was $4038 USD. Here is an article I&#8217;ve found, introducing Echos 44 model (same look, older processor and smaller HD): <a href="http://issuu.com/adpware/docs/mc144?mode=embed&#038;layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&#038;showFlipBtn=true&#038;pageNumber=206" rel="nofollow">http://issuu.com/adpware/docs/mc144?mode=embed&#038;layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&#038;showFlipBtn=true&#038;pageNumber=206</a> (unfortunately it&#8217;s in Italian!).</p>
<p>So far, I&#8217;ve been able to get rid of Windows 98 which previous owner put inside (quite operational) and install a Debian Woody (3.0). Everything thanks to a six (sic!) magic floppy installer images from Debian archive (archive.debian.org) and a Xircom RealPort PCMCIA LAN card. The installation was unbelievably straight forward and the only inconvenience was changing the default apt sources (adding archive.* prefix to it). I&#8217;ve ended up with a ready to go ~100MB Debian install which after boot and logging in shows that the RAM usage is mere 3MB, swap usage 0MB (fully connected to the Internet). </p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve even done dist-upgrade to Debian Sarge (3.1) and I think I&#8217;ll stick with that for longer as everything works just right. The machine is perfect for a dumb terminal as the only spinning thing is a hard disk and the power supply is labeled as 1,5A@21W max output. I&#8217;ve been able to run X on it with IceWM but despite using only 7MB RAM and ~20MB for SWAP it is too slow for comfortable use.</p>
<p>Still, I think that it&#8217;s a great machine for which I can find many useful tasks on a daily basis (I&#8217;m not kidding). It&#8217;s unbelievably small &#8211; maybe a bit thicker than a modern netbook and proves how bloated modern laptops have become. It&#8217;s a great experience and a big lesson messing with hardware that old. Thanks for inspiration K.Mandla!</p>
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