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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 02:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They have similarities and differences; for my own part Openbox is cleaner  and less obsfuscated. It&#039;s rare that I see a Fluxbox setup that doesn&#039;t  confuse me with endless submenus and configuration options. 

On the other hand ... 

http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/carving-up-the-corpse-of-fluxbuntu/ ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have similarities and differences; for my own part Openbox is cleaner  and less obsfuscated. It&#8217;s rare that I see a Fluxbox setup that doesn&#8217;t  confuse me with endless submenus and configuration options. </p>
<p>On the other hand &#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/carving-up-the-corpse-of-fluxbuntu/" rel="nofollow">http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/carving-up-the-corpse-of-fluxbuntu/</a> </p>
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		<title>By: samspade10</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47463</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 01:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How different is Openbox to Fluxbox/ I&#039;ve been using Fluxpup (Puppy Linux with Fluxbox) for nearly two years but I think Fluxbox is now no longer updated (what is the proper word for that?) so I&#039;ll have to make the switch at some point I guess.

Is Openbox as easy to configure for keyboard shortcuts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How different is Openbox to Fluxbox/ I&#8217;ve been using Fluxpup (Puppy Linux with Fluxbox) for nearly two years but I think Fluxbox is now no longer updated (what is the proper word for that?) so I&#8217;ll have to make the switch at some point I guess.</p>
<p>Is Openbox as easy to configure for keyboard shortcuts?</p>
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		<title>By: technologyunit</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[technologyunit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 01:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always been impartial to very simple desktops, but always found my self dragged back to Gnome. Heck my gnome desktop doesn&#039;t have any gnome panels, but instead I use AWN docks because they are more fun and versatile However it always seame as though you stick to small little Linux distros than the big fat fat-clients like Ubuntu. Why is this? Is it just a preference or is it hardware condition, or .....

Thanks... Like the wallpaper as well.

Sincerely

Tobias Mann]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been impartial to very simple desktops, but always found my self dragged back to Gnome. Heck my gnome desktop doesn&#8217;t have any gnome panels, but instead I use AWN docks because they are more fun and versatile However it always seame as though you stick to small little Linux distros than the big fat fat-clients like Ubuntu. Why is this? Is it just a preference or is it hardware condition, or &#8230;..</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230; Like the wallpaper as well.</p>
<p>Sincerely</p>
<p>Tobias Mann</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this had something to do with the way the closing application was  storing its last window position, and how IceWM was interpreting that  location when the application was reopened. I hadn&#039;t ever noticed it  before, but every time I opened the application, the box shifted downward  slightly. It&#039;s not a big deal, but it was one of those things I couldn&#039;t  seem to correct without undue labor. 

And I don&#039;t know if menu maker would have solved the menu problem or not.  I literally entered one blank line in a working .icewm/menu file, and  suddenly the file was unreadable. Very strange. 

No matter. I&#039;m sure I will be back to it in the future. I just need a  little break, that&#039;s all. ;) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this had something to do with the way the closing application was  storing its last window position, and how IceWM was interpreting that  location when the application was reopened. I hadn&#8217;t ever noticed it  before, but every time I opened the application, the box shifted downward  slightly. It&#8217;s not a big deal, but it was one of those things I couldn&#8217;t  seem to correct without undue labor. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t know if menu maker would have solved the menu problem or not.  I literally entered one blank line in a working .icewm/menu file, and  suddenly the file was unreadable. Very strange. </p>
<p>No matter. I&#8217;m sure I will be back to it in the future. I just need a  little break, that&#8217;s all. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: mulenmar</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mulenmar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if IceWM has a function to store the screen position of windows or not, but if you want a menu just use menumaker and then add or change a few lines as you see fit. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if IceWM has a function to store the screen position of windows or not, but if you want a menu just use menumaker and then add or change a few lines as you see fit. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sheesh! I gotta do everything around this place. ;)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/wp-sabayon-flower-3008x2000.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/wp-sabayon-flower-3008x2000.jpg?w=150&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; title=&quot;Close-up of a tulip&quot; width=&quot;150&quot; height=&quot;112&quot; class=&quot;alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-4412&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Enjoy! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh! I gotta do everything around this place. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/wp-sabayon-flower-3008x2000.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/wp-sabayon-flower-3008x2000.jpg?w=150" alt="" align="center" title="Close-up of a tulip" width="150" height="112" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-4412" /></a></p>
<p>Enjoy! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jengtron</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jengtron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for sharing your conky :) mind sharing also your wallpaper? its gorgeous!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for sharing your conky <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  mind sharing also your wallpaper? its gorgeous!</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, although any time I can impress a nerd, I call it a successful day.  :twisted: 

Mostly I was having problems with windows migrating southward after they  were closed and reopened. That, and editing the menu was somehow  corrupting it and making it unreadable to the running session. 

Little things like that were starting to annoy me. I should have probably  just started over from scratch, with a blank IceWM installation. But the  idea of building these things up from nothing is sometimes intimidating.  :( ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, although any time I can impress a nerd, I call it a successful day.  <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Mostly I was having problems with windows migrating southward after they  were closed and reopened. That, and editing the menu was somehow  corrupting it and making it unreadable to the running session. </p>
<p>Little things like that were starting to annoy me. I should have probably  just started over from scratch, with a blank IceWM installation. But the  idea of building these things up from nothing is sometimes intimidating.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/back-to-openbox-2/#comment-47366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure! Although LXDE adds a lot of cool tools to the entire experience. And  using LXDE doesn&#039;t necessarily require you to use openbox, I don&#039;t think. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure! Although LXDE adds a lot of cool tools to the entire experience. And  using LXDE doesn&#8217;t necessarily require you to use openbox, I don&#8217;t think. </p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am vaguely surprised. I never thought it that interesting. Oh well, here  goes: 

[sourcecode language=&quot;bash&quot;]background yes 
use_xft yes 
xftfont Dejavu Sans:size=8 
xftalpha 0.8 
update_interval 2 
own_window no 
double_buffer yes 
draw_shades yes 
draw_outline no 
border_margin 0 
border_width 1 
default_color white 
default_shade_color black 
alignment bottom_left 
minimum_size 1006 
gap_x 9 
gap_y 9 
use_spacer no 
no_buffers yes 
uppercase no 

TEXT 
${alignc}${color white}$sysname $kernel ${color darkgrey}on ${color white}$nodename ${color darkgrey}[${color white}${freq}Mhz ${execi 1000 cat /proc/cpuinfo &#124; grep -m 1 &#039;model name&#039; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/model name.*: //&#039; &#124; sed -e &#039;s/  //g&#039;}${color darkgrey}] &#124; ${color white}$uptime_short ${color darkgrey}uptime at ${color white}$cpu% ${color darkgrey}cpu load with ${color white}${mem}${color darkgrey} of ${color white}${memmax}${color darkgrey} (${color white}$memperc%${color darkgrey}) used by ${color white}$processes ${color darkgrey}processes 
${alignc}${color white}${fs_used /}${color darkgrey} of ${color  white}${fs_size /}${color darkgrey} root partition used, ${color  white}${fs_used /home}${color darkgrey} of ${color white}${fs_size  /home}${color darkgrey} home partition used &#124; ${color white}${downspeed  eth0} kbps${color darkgrey} down (${color white}${totaldown eth0}${color  darkgrey} total), ${color white}${upspeed eth0} kbps${color darkgrey} up  (${color white}${totalup eth0}${color darkgrey} total) on ${color  white}${addr eth0}[/sourcecode]
 Be careful, Wordpress.com enjoys eating code even when it&#039;s tagged for  source code. 

The sed-fu in there only strips out excess spaces from /proc/cpuinfo, so  you might want to remove or edit it. Have fun! :) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am vaguely surprised. I never thought it that interesting. Oh well, here  goes: </p>
<pre class="brush: bash; title: ; notranslate">background yes 
use_xft yes 
xftfont Dejavu Sans:size=8 
xftalpha 0.8 
update_interval 2 
own_window no 
double_buffer yes 
draw_shades yes 
draw_outline no 
border_margin 0 
border_width 1 
default_color white 
default_shade_color black 
alignment bottom_left 
minimum_size 1006 
gap_x 9 
gap_y 9 
use_spacer no 
no_buffers yes 
uppercase no 

TEXT 
${alignc}${color white}$sysname $kernel ${color darkgrey}on ${color white}$nodename ${color darkgrey}[${color white}${freq}Mhz ${execi 1000 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -m 1 'model name' | sed -e 's/model name.*: //' | sed -e 's/  //g'}${color darkgrey}] | ${color white}$uptime_short ${color darkgrey}uptime at ${color white}$cpu% ${color darkgrey}cpu load with ${color white}${mem}${color darkgrey} of ${color white}${memmax}${color darkgrey} (${color white}$memperc%${color darkgrey}) used by ${color white}$processes ${color darkgrey}processes 
${alignc}${color white}${fs_used /}${color darkgrey} of ${color  white}${fs_size /}${color darkgrey} root partition used, ${color  white}${fs_used /home}${color darkgrey} of ${color white}${fs_size  /home}${color darkgrey} home partition used | ${color white}${downspeed  eth0} kbps${color darkgrey} down (${color white}${totaldown eth0}${color  darkgrey} total), ${color white}${upspeed eth0} kbps${color darkgrey} up  (${color white}${totalup eth0}${color darkgrey} total) on ${color  white}${addr eth0}</pre>
<p> Be careful, WordPress.com enjoys eating code even when it&#8217;s tagged for  source code. </p>
<p>The sed-fu in there only strips out excess spaces from /proc/cpuinfo, so  you might want to remove or edit it. Have fun! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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