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	<title>Comments on: No joke: A full Gnome desktop on 105Mb</title>
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		<title>By: Three middleweights &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three middleweights &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] probably should have though. For as much oohing and aahing as I am guilty of, when I talk about Linux Mint Debian, it&#8217;s important to remember that LMDE [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] probably should have though. For as much oohing and aahing as I am guilty of, when I talk about Linux Mint Debian, it&#8217;s important to remember that LMDE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh no, please, let&#039;s not start that debate again. ... :&#124; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, please, let&#8217;s not start that debate again. &#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: jdt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[k mandla is a she not a he............LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k mandla is a she not a he&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo Vukovic</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/no-joke-a-full-gnome-desktop-on-105mb/#comment-46843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevo Vukovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just run&gt; free -l -m
This will gave you a real picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just run&gt; free -l -m<br />
This will gave you a real picture.</p>
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		<title>By: CountDuckula</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/no-joke-a-full-gnome-desktop-on-105mb/#comment-46835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CountDuckula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So lets compare apples with pears because thats what you seem to have done. If you run any distro as a live CD your memory usage will be more than if you use it as installed distro. 

Also remember that even when you install a Linux distro in the same way as K.Mandla has done in his posts, you may end up with a better or worse result depending on the machine you put it on. Older machines may have less processes going and therefore maybe lighter on RAM use.

As for Linux Mint, my experiences with it on VirtualBox have been mixed - occasionally some installs run at 100% CPU utilization whilst idle, perhaps a bug with Mint or VirtualBox?

The best way to install is always on a real PC :)

I posted (at the top of this page as Gazza) that my Linux Mint 9 install booted at 80MB which isn&#039;t that bad. After some tweaking this now boots at 65MB - let&#039;s not forget that this is ready for serious use, and easy for a Windoze user to use. I could trim more off the resource usage by removing Network Manager and other &quot;ease of use tools&quot;, replacing them with command line equivalents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So lets compare apples with pears because thats what you seem to have done. If you run any distro as a live CD your memory usage will be more than if you use it as installed distro. </p>
<p>Also remember that even when you install a Linux distro in the same way as K.Mandla has done in his posts, you may end up with a better or worse result depending on the machine you put it on. Older machines may have less processes going and therefore maybe lighter on RAM use.</p>
<p>As for Linux Mint, my experiences with it on VirtualBox have been mixed &#8211; occasionally some installs run at 100% CPU utilization whilst idle, perhaps a bug with Mint or VirtualBox?</p>
<p>The best way to install is always on a real PC <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I posted (at the top of this page as Gazza) that my Linux Mint 9 install booted at 80MB which isn&#8217;t that bad. After some tweaking this now boots at 65MB &#8211; let&#8217;s not forget that this is ready for serious use, and easy for a Windoze user to use. I could trim more off the resource usage by removing Network Manager and other &#8220;ease of use tools&#8221;, replacing them with command line equivalents.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanislaus Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stanislaus Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m questioning your figures. You say that 105MB of RAM is used. I set up a VM on VirtualBox and ran Mint Debian on it. Granted, I did not install but just ran off the iso image. I saw 136MB used in the system monitor applet. But when I ran top from the CLI, the memory used was way above that, 507624KB. It seems that the system monitor applet is being very optimistic. Top seems to give a truer picture of memory usage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m questioning your figures. You say that 105MB of RAM is used. I set up a VM on VirtualBox and ran Mint Debian on it. Granted, I did not install but just ran off the iso image. I saw 136MB used in the system monitor applet. But when I ran top from the CLI, the memory used was way above that, 507624KB. It seems that the system monitor applet is being very optimistic. Top seems to give a truer picture of memory usage.</p>
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		<title>By: ScannerDarkly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ScannerDarkly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And then there are people that say a battery can&#039;t be charged when it already is, so it doesn&#039;t have any downsides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there are people that say a battery can&#8217;t be charged when it already is, so it doesn&#8217;t have any downsides.</p>
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		<title>By: mulenmar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mulenmar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If so, I sure hope those batteries are removed -- constantly charging charged batteries isn&#039;t exactly good for them. :&#124;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, I sure hope those batteries are removed &#8212; constantly charging charged batteries isn&#8217;t exactly good for them. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ScannerDarkly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ScannerDarkly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never use your laptops portably then K, just plugged into the mains? I&#039;m guessing you don&#039;t use batteries at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never use your laptops portably then K, just plugged into the mains? I&#8217;m guessing you don&#8217;t use batteries at all?</p>
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