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	<title>Comments on: Xorg or Wayland: Color me disinterested</title>
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		<title>By: spc</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46503</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shuttleworth is going to ditch one thing that has really bad connotations, and what I mean is Linux. Notion about Linux is that it is overly complicated, not suitable for desktop, lacks anything close to killer app, and last but not least, scares live shit out of avarge computer user. 
IMO ubuntu will have to evolve as far away from &quot;vanilla&quot; stack as possible in order to distinguish itself from &quot;linux croud&quot;. It can&#039;t be just orange paint covered Debian. More Android way.. 
Betting on Wayland is one of handful of means to achieve that.
What&#039;s more, in future one might have to port its apps, perfectly working on Linux, to Ubuntu. 

BTW, did you know that xorg.conf.d in ubuntu is in /usr/share/X11 ??wow !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shuttleworth is going to ditch one thing that has really bad connotations, and what I mean is Linux. Notion about Linux is that it is overly complicated, not suitable for desktop, lacks anything close to killer app, and last but not least, scares live shit out of avarge computer user.<br />
IMO ubuntu will have to evolve as far away from &#8220;vanilla&#8221; stack as possible in order to distinguish itself from &#8220;linux croud&#8221;. It can&#8217;t be just orange paint covered Debian. More Android way..<br />
Betting on Wayland is one of handful of means to achieve that.<br />
What&#8217;s more, in future one might have to port its apps, perfectly working on Linux, to Ubuntu. </p>
<p>BTW, did you know that xorg.conf.d in ubuntu is in /usr/share/X11 ??wow !!!</p>
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		<title>By: el mariachi</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[el mariachi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very true! maybe I gave the sense of not thinking likewise :P
I hope they contribute some code to the project, because X sure isn&#039;t the future.
I believe canonical isn&#039;t evil (yet?) so this may be the push Wayland and the Linux Desktop experience needs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very true! maybe I gave the sense of not thinking likewise <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I hope they contribute some code to the project, because X sure isn&#8217;t the future.<br />
I believe canonical isn&#8217;t evil (yet?) so this may be the push Wayland and the Linux Desktop experience needs</p>
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		<title>By: Bender</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@el mariachi
Call me nitpicky but as i see it now ubuntu hasn&#039;t done anything towards wayland migration except that Mark S. blog mentioning this. As it is right now ubuntu takes something that was already created and makes it as if ubuntu did the hard work (understandable as in my eyes they are a marketing company like apple). If they will employ additional developer full time for wayland then i can say they&#039;ve done something but right now they&#039;ve done nothin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@el mariachi<br />
Call me nitpicky but as i see it now ubuntu hasn&#8217;t done anything towards wayland migration except that Mark S. blog mentioning this. As it is right now ubuntu takes something that was already created and makes it as if ubuntu did the hard work (understandable as in my eyes they are a marketing company like apple). If they will employ additional developer full time for wayland then i can say they&#8217;ve done something but right now they&#8217;ve done nothin.</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right. I should give Ubuntu at least a small tip of the hat, for taking the first step. Like it or not, at least Ubuntu isn&#039;t afraid to step outside the 25-year-old box. :&#124;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. I should give Ubuntu at least a small tip of the hat, for taking the first step. Like it or not, at least Ubuntu isn&#8217;t afraid to step outside the 25-year-old box. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Shuster</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Shuster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, you don&#039;t like either?  You are SO edgy!  I want to have your kids!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you don&#8217;t like either?  You are SO edgy!  I want to have your kids!</p>
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		<title>By: keithb</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keithb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Freedom of choice time I guess. 

CentOS 6 will have updates for almost as long as the next windows release takes to arrive :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of choice time I guess. </p>
<p>CentOS 6 will have updates for almost as long as the next windows release takes to arrive <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: el mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[el mariachi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[inspirational :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inspirational <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Armor Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Armor Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, at least Ubuntu is the first one that takes measures to make X retire. Not a single other distro has even started to take steps in another direction.

And it&#039;s true that most people use their pc for communication and social networking. I really think Ubuntu is going the right way.

Being the most popular always comes with a lot of critics.

Although I agree that Archers can watch and see what&#039;ll happen from a safe distance ;)
Eventually, Canonical will either abort their move to Wayland or most distros will follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least Ubuntu is the first one that takes measures to make X retire. Not a single other distro has even started to take steps in another direction.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s true that most people use their pc for communication and social networking. I really think Ubuntu is going the right way.</p>
<p>Being the most popular always comes with a lot of critics.</p>
<p>Although I agree that Archers can watch and see what&#8217;ll happen from a safe distance <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Eventually, Canonical will either abort their move to Wayland or most distros will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Armor Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Armor Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To each his/her own, as always. To me, this is a very exciting time. Everything from Unity to Wayland is very bold move and, as someone who studied economics, I can only applaud this.

Finally, there will at least be some difference between the multitude of Linux distributions out there. And finally Ubuntu breaks from the rest of the herd instead of implementing their own ideas and then getting slandered by others because &quot;they don&#039;t follow the rest of the gang&quot;.

People still miss the point of Free Software, which includes freedom of choice. I&#039;ll say it clearly:
Linux is Not Gnome.
Linux is Not Unity.
Linux is Not Ubuntu.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To each his/her own, as always. To me, this is a very exciting time. Everything from Unity to Wayland is very bold move and, as someone who studied economics, I can only applaud this.</p>
<p>Finally, there will at least be some difference between the multitude of Linux distributions out there. And finally Ubuntu breaks from the rest of the herd instead of implementing their own ideas and then getting slandered by others because &#8220;they don&#8217;t follow the rest of the gang&#8221;.</p>
<p>People still miss the point of Free Software, which includes freedom of choice. I&#8217;ll say it clearly:<br />
Linux is Not Gnome.<br />
Linux is Not Unity.<br />
Linux is Not Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: el mariachi</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/xorg-or-wayland-color-me-disinterested/#comment-46480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[el mariachi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh it will hurt allright, but not to me! not that I care since I&#039;m an archer but I think it&#039;s time X takes a nap (forever) with it&#039;s friend HAL ;D

still don&#039;t get the deal with twitter/fb... if this keeps going, Ubuntu will be a mobile phone OS inside a desktop/laptop computer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh it will hurt allright, but not to me! not that I care since I&#8217;m an archer but I think it&#8217;s time X takes a nap (forever) with it&#8217;s friend HAL ;D</p>
<p>still don&#8217;t get the deal with twitter/fb&#8230; if this keeps going, Ubuntu will be a mobile phone OS inside a desktop/laptop computer</p>
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