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		<title>By: Back to Debian, at 133Mhz and 32Mb &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-46041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Back to Debian, at 133Mhz and 32Mb &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] not a picture-perfect replica of the machine I usually configure, and it takes a little longer to boot, but it sure took a lot less time to wrangle. Sometimes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not a picture-perfect replica of the machine I usually configure, and it takes a little longer to boot, but it sure took a lot less time to wrangle. Sometimes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gcc the pig &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcc the pig &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 01:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] should have realized that some of those packages, although there are very few, would take quite a long time to build if they were updated. So I am partly to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] should have realized that some of those packages, although there are very few, would take quite a long time to build if they were updated. So I am partly to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 01:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed the little Scarlett O&#039;Hara moment there. And of course, you can link back here if you like. You&#039;re more than welcome. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the little Scarlett O&#8217;Hara moment there. And of course, you can link back here if you like. You&#8217;re more than welcome. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No two are alike &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No two are alike &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] But at the same time, most graphical X systems can turn off the backlight. Somehow. Magically. So as a troubleshooting measure, I decided to try building X on the 133Mhz Pentium file server and torrent slave. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But at the same time, most graphical X systems can turn off the backlight. Somehow. Magically. So as a troubleshooting measure, I decided to try building X on the 133Mhz Pentium file server and torrent slave. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: prinzzchavo</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45364</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to bother you with replies to old posts, but I just couldn&#039;t get this one out of my mind. 

Linux and No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy
Linux and No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy...

So I got a test machine and will soon start testing minimum installations by myself.

Thing is, I remember my first computer (Pentium, 200Mhz 16Mb RAM, R.I.P) used just a 500 Mb HDD, and I got Win95 on it. Either I am remembering it wrong(quite possible after 15 years), or there must be a way for linux to be that small, that fast, and much more useful!

Now, based on this post and some others, I understand you would recommend me trying Crux but, are there any other distros to be really taken into account, if my goal is to have a Desktop environment (running X, if possible) that fits in an old, 2Gb hard drive? LFS, Tiny core, Puppy...all of them seem to be close, but not there.

I know this sounds like hardcore-lightweighting, but still... any suggestion would be very much appreciated.

...as God is my witness, I&#039;m never going to be over 1Gb again!...

PS: I&#039;ll try to document my way to this achievement(if I get it done anyhow) on a blog, and would want to have your permission to mention your work at this blog. Deal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to bother you with replies to old posts, but I just couldn&#8217;t get this one out of my mind. </p>
<p>Linux and No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy<br />
Linux and No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy&#8230;</p>
<p>So I got a test machine and will soon start testing minimum installations by myself.</p>
<p>Thing is, I remember my first computer (Pentium, 200Mhz 16Mb RAM, R.I.P) used just a 500 Mb HDD, and I got Win95 on it. Either I am remembering it wrong(quite possible after 15 years), or there must be a way for linux to be that small, that fast, and much more useful!</p>
<p>Now, based on this post and some others, I understand you would recommend me trying Crux but, are there any other distros to be really taken into account, if my goal is to have a Desktop environment (running X, if possible) that fits in an old, 2Gb hard drive? LFS, Tiny core, Puppy&#8230;all of them seem to be close, but not there.</p>
<p>I know this sounds like hardcore-lightweighting, but still&#8230; any suggestion would be very much appreciated.</p>
<p>&#8230;as God is my witness, I&#8217;m never going to be over 1Gb again!&#8230;</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;ll try to document my way to this achievement(if I get it done anyhow) on a blog, and would want to have your permission to mention your work at this blog. Deal?</p>
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		<title>By: prinzzchavo</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prinzzchavo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the misunderstanding of the actual post. Being a newbie, I didn&#039;t know that the kernel source tree could be deleted. Now that I know, I&#039;ll get back to the basics, and see what I can do with my 3Gb Installation. 

Thank you for maintaining such an inspiring blog(I guess my real-life commitments will not be that happy  ;) ).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the misunderstanding of the actual post. Being a newbie, I didn&#8217;t know that the kernel source tree could be deleted. Now that I know, I&#8217;ll get back to the basics, and see what I can do with my 3Gb Installation. </p>
<p>Thank you for maintaining such an inspiring blog(I guess my real-life commitments will not be that happy  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, again, the reason it rides at 1.2Gb is because the kernel source  folder, after compilation, takes up about 650Mb. Add to that another 300Mb  for my ports folder, and the system -- the actual system itself -- takes  up a measly 400Mb or so. 

It&#039;s not that bad. Like I said, if I were to clean out those folders it  would be much, much smaller. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, again, the reason it rides at 1.2Gb is because the kernel source  folder, after compilation, takes up about 650Mb. Add to that another 300Mb  for my ports folder, and the system &#8212; the actual system itself &#8212; takes  up a measly 400Mb or so. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that bad. Like I said, if I were to clean out those folders it  would be much, much smaller. </p>
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		<title>By: prinzzchavo</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/how-little-it-takes/#comment-45310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prinzzchavo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the listing. I have been taking a look at my own list for a while, and never got under 3 Gb.

Don&#039;t get me wrong but, isn&#039;t still 1Gb a little too much space for a lightweight example?

I mean no disrespect (quite the opposite actually), but, after getting in contact with DSL, and some other Live-Light-Distros, I have the feeling there must be something we can do to lower that down anyhow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the listing. I have been taking a look at my own list for a while, and never got under 3 Gb.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong but, isn&#8217;t still 1Gb a little too much space for a lightweight example?</p>
<p>I mean no disrespect (quite the opposite actually), but, after getting in contact with DSL, and some other Live-Light-Distros, I have the feeling there must be something we can do to lower that down anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: mulenmar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgot to put my own suggestions in here -- on a netbook, I don&#039;t install man-db or the man pages. In addition to the list you provided, K.Mandla. :)

I&#039;m curious as to why you would leave out dash, though -- it&#039;s slightly more lightweight and works fine as a system-script shell. Or whatever the term for it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to put my own suggestions in here &#8212; on a netbook, I don&#8217;t install man-db or the man pages. In addition to the list you provided, K.Mandla. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to why you would leave out dash, though &#8212; it&#8217;s slightly more lightweight and works fine as a system-script shell. Or whatever the term for it is.</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No need to apologize, tomas. Being new is not a sin. ;) 

For my own part, I always omit cryptsetup, dash, dcron, device-mapper,  jfsutils, licenses, logrotate, lvm2, mailx, mdadm, ppp, reiserfsprogs,  rp-pppoe, texinfo, wpa-supplicant, and xfsprogs. I always add in  base-devel and nfs-utils, openssh, sudo and wireless-tools. 

Aside from that, I can run a wired, e2fs-only system on what&#039;s there, plus  or minus any firmware that&#039;s required. 

The funny thing about Arch is though, I know for a fact that a few of  those will get installed anyway, as dependencies for either other core  setup programs, or further on up the road, when I install software I like. 

So really, only about three or four of those might not actually get  installed. Some will get drawn in anyway. :&#124; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to apologize, tomas. Being new is not a sin. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>For my own part, I always omit cryptsetup, dash, dcron, device-mapper,  jfsutils, licenses, logrotate, lvm2, mailx, mdadm, ppp, reiserfsprogs,  rp-pppoe, texinfo, wpa-supplicant, and xfsprogs. I always add in  base-devel and nfs-utils, openssh, sudo and wireless-tools. </p>
<p>Aside from that, I can run a wired, e2fs-only system on what&#8217;s there, plus  or minus any firmware that&#8217;s required. </p>
<p>The funny thing about Arch is though, I know for a fact that a few of  those will get installed anyway, as dependencies for either other core  setup programs, or further on up the road, when I install software I like. </p>
<p>So really, only about three or four of those might not actually get  installed. Some will get drawn in anyway. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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