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	<title>Comments on: Returning to Musca</title>
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		<title>By: A finished product: The weather clock project &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A finished product: The weather clock project &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] wouldn&#8217;t want to be boring or mundane  , so I&#8217;ll jump straight in and explain the details of how and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wouldn&#8217;t want to be boring or mundane  , so I&#8217;ll jump straight in and explain the details of how and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed: somebody to ignore completely.  You obviously hit a button there... methinks he complains too much!

In terms of your posts, keep them coming.  I may not use many of the tools you talk about, but I do try quite a few of them and some of them (e.g. slurm recently) stick!

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed: somebody to ignore completely.  You obviously hit a button there&#8230; methinks he complains too much!</p>
<p>In terms of your posts, keep them coming.  I may not use many of the tools you talk about, but I do try quite a few of them and some of them (e.g. slurm recently) stick!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: lyyx</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lyyx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I know this is your blog and you can do whatever you want with it.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Which is why I just spent two paragraphs excoriating you. Oh, and good luck with your worthless fallacious garbage.&quot;

I love the sheer seething hatred on display here, though, on a completely innocuous post that&#039;s no different from all the others - kmandla documenting his hobby.

And, for the record - my Toshiba Satellite 1800-400 had its harddrive die on me, but I love the laptop as the first computer I ever bought, and it ran Musca as a WM even if I swapped the OS. Musca&#039;s amazing, and I&#039;m so glad the tutorial&#039;s up again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I know this is your blog and you can do whatever you want with it.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Which is why I just spent two paragraphs excoriating you. Oh, and good luck with your worthless fallacious garbage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love the sheer seething hatred on display here, though, on a completely innocuous post that&#8217;s no different from all the others &#8211; kmandla documenting his hobby.</p>
<p>And, for the record &#8211; my Toshiba Satellite 1800-400 had its harddrive die on me, but I love the laptop as the first computer I ever bought, and it ran Musca as a WM even if I swapped the OS. Musca&#8217;s amazing, and I&#8217;m so glad the tutorial&#8217;s up again.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterStJ</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48255</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeterStJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[once again fallacies on your blog: using keystrokes to copy and paste being faster than drag and drop...

try using compiz or osx for a day and find out how people from this century use copy/paste (hint with only one continuous gesture, not  &#039;at least 5 keystrokes&#039; : initiate copy mode, move from point A to point B to select the text, which just for the example I assume is one keystroke, however often it is not, exit copy mode, switch screens, paste. Hum... yeah, seems much easier and faster, especially if you have around 30 fingers and remember the keystrokes)).

One thing I don&#039;t understand: how your blog from a informative, rich technical help tool became the thing it is now? Every one of us at some point had to use at least one tip or technique described in your technical posts, I assume most of your readers found your blog exactly this way. In which case it is proven to be very helpful and solution driven. However, (at least mine) interest is soon dispersed just because you flood the reader with senseless posts about mindless experiments and most of all for evangelizing. 

I know this is your blog and you can do whatever you want with it. What I don&#039;t understand is how you have so many commenters  when the only real value of your blog is the software link at the top, everything else is just garbage. 

Time to remove you from my reader. 

Good luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once again fallacies on your blog: using keystrokes to copy and paste being faster than drag and drop&#8230;</p>
<p>try using compiz or osx for a day and find out how people from this century use copy/paste (hint with only one continuous gesture, not  &#8216;at least 5 keystrokes&#8217; : initiate copy mode, move from point A to point B to select the text, which just for the example I assume is one keystroke, however often it is not, exit copy mode, switch screens, paste. Hum&#8230; yeah, seems much easier and faster, especially if you have around 30 fingers and remember the keystrokes)).</p>
<p>One thing I don&#8217;t understand: how your blog from a informative, rich technical help tool became the thing it is now? Every one of us at some point had to use at least one tip or technique described in your technical posts, I assume most of your readers found your blog exactly this way. In which case it is proven to be very helpful and solution driven. However, (at least mine) interest is soon dispersed just because you flood the reader with senseless posts about mindless experiments and most of all for evangelizing. </p>
<p>I know this is your blog and you can do whatever you want with it. What I don&#8217;t understand is how you have so many commenters  when the only real value of your blog is the software link at the top, everything else is just garbage. </p>
<p>Time to remove you from my reader. </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: A comfortable arrangement: Musca and screen &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A comfortable arrangement: Musca and screen &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I find myself doing the same thing in Musca on the Mebius, where I have individual programs assigned to the Mod4 key plus a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: You know you&#8217;re a CLI addict when &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-48213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You know you&#8217;re a CLI addict when &#171; Motho ke motho ka botho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] if I were using Musca, I wouldn&#8217;t think twice about putting those two side-by-side on the same screen. That would [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-43587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can wholeheartedly and emphatically +1 every point you made. I wish I  had written that. Thank you Carlos. :) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can wholeheartedly and emphatically +1 every point you made. I wish I  had written that. Thank you Carlos. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-43583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve used dwm a lot in the near past, after some happy ratpoison experience. Recently dwm went second on my top five when I fell in love with musca. That was because:

1) I&#039;m able to keep windows hidden (alla vim, emacs) and cycle them along the current frame, de facto getting a functionality pretty similar to tabbing (except that iteration is among windows in an entire group).

2) The clean separation between frames and windows avoids the continuous and automatic rearranging of the layout typical of dynamic tiling wms (specially of dwm, a violation of least surprise principle). That is, when I open a new window I know how the resulting layout will look like (exactly as it did), where the new window will end and, most important, that the other windows will remain where they were.

3) The ability to define a catchall frame.

4) The cli interface to the wm, both introspective and imperative (actions), that allows for easy extensibility by means of bash scripts.

5) No decorations. I can recognize people by their faces even if they don&#039;t carry their names tattooed on their foreheads. Same for windows.

6) Trays, launchers, panels and all the crap are responsibility of external tools... as it should be, period.

7) Arbitrarily complex frame layouts can be created manually and dumped/restored to/from a file, with no need of waiting for or writing patches. Agreed, these are static layouts. But then I don&#039;t care about dynamic smart ass layout algorithms that never do what I really want. To be honest, I don&#039;t care about complex layouts at all.
  
8) Super easy and flexible resizing of frames.
  
9) Super easy north-south-east-west directional moving between frames (compare it with the awkward j/k dwm mechanism).
  
10) Super easy north-south-east-west directional relocation of windows between frames (compare it with the limited zoom master dwm mechanism).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used dwm a lot in the near past, after some happy ratpoison experience. Recently dwm went second on my top five when I fell in love with musca. That was because:</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m able to keep windows hidden (alla vim, emacs) and cycle them along the current frame, de facto getting a functionality pretty similar to tabbing (except that iteration is among windows in an entire group).</p>
<p>2) The clean separation between frames and windows avoids the continuous and automatic rearranging of the layout typical of dynamic tiling wms (specially of dwm, a violation of least surprise principle). That is, when I open a new window I know how the resulting layout will look like (exactly as it did), where the new window will end and, most important, that the other windows will remain where they were.</p>
<p>3) The ability to define a catchall frame.</p>
<p>4) The cli interface to the wm, both introspective and imperative (actions), that allows for easy extensibility by means of bash scripts.</p>
<p>5) No decorations. I can recognize people by their faces even if they don&#8217;t carry their names tattooed on their foreheads. Same for windows.</p>
<p>6) Trays, launchers, panels and all the crap are responsibility of external tools&#8230; as it should be, period.</p>
<p>7) Arbitrarily complex frame layouts can be created manually and dumped/restored to/from a file, with no need of waiting for or writing patches. Agreed, these are static layouts. But then I don&#8217;t care about dynamic smart ass layout algorithms that never do what I really want. To be honest, I don&#8217;t care about complex layouts at all.</p>
<p>8) Super easy and flexible resizing of frames.</p>
<p>9) Super easy north-south-east-west directional moving between frames (compare it with the awkward j/k dwm mechanism).</p>
<p>10) Super easy north-south-east-west directional relocation of windows between frames (compare it with the limited zoom master dwm mechanism).</p>
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		<title>By: éric</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-41879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[éric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post.  Musca looks clean and simple.  However, I&#039;m sticking to ratpoison for a very simple reason (and it&#039;s the same reason I gave up on awesome as well): I don&#039;t like key chording in general.  I prefer a series of keys to execute commands to avoid problems with RSI.  If Musca would allow key sequences instead, it would be very appealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Musca looks clean and simple.  However, I&#8217;m sticking to ratpoison for a very simple reason (and it&#8217;s the same reason I gave up on awesome as well): I don&#8217;t like key chording in general.  I prefer a series of keys to execute commands to avoid problems with RSI.  If Musca would allow key sequences instead, it would be very appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: K.Mandla</title>
		<link>http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/returning-to-musca/#comment-41296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.Mandla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re quite welcome. I have to agree that, as tiling managers go, Musca is just too straightforward and easy to learn. I started using it after Awesome and dvtm, and everything is just so simple and perfectly intuitive. 

I&#039;ll have to take a closer look at the dump and load commands, now that you mention them. It&#039;s rare that I have a particular layout that I stick to, but it would be good to know those things.

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re quite welcome. I have to agree that, as tiling managers go, Musca is just too straightforward and easy to learn. I started using it after Awesome and dvtm, and everything is just so simple and perfectly intuitive. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to take a closer look at the dump and load commands, now that you mention them. It&#8217;s rare that I have a particular layout that I stick to, but it would be good to know those things.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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