Two somewhat important facts

I discovered two small things today, neither of which is particularly earth-shattering, but both have some bearing on working with out-of-date hardware.

First, and probably more impressive of the two, is the fact that it takes a 120Mhz Pentium 10 hours to compile tidy. You might know tidy as a venerable tool for arbitrarily cleaning up html code; it’s nothing fancy, has no dependencies, results in about a dozen files in the Crux package. Otherwise, it’s a rather plain program.

Building it took 599 minutes, done over the course of the day, while I was at work. Ordinarily I would compile it on another Crux machine and transplant the package to this one, but my attempt at that this time resulted in errors when I tried to run it on the Pentium. Since it’s a relatively small item, and didn’t seem like it would overwhelm things, I let it start on my way out the door.

And according to the time utility, which I had the foresight to use when I started building, it finished about 10 hours later. What a speed demon. :roll:

The other interesting tidbit is a little more specific to Arch Linux, which I’m using on the Inspiron while it undergoes some changes. Just out of curiosity, I installed both the gnome and the gnome-extra groups, which more or less equates to the minimum for a Gnome desktop. And I trust Arch to keep it very svelte.

Total space required for all those dependencies? Only 1,345Mb, according to pacman.

Maybe that’s not a surprising number, but it was to me. I didn’t really equate Gnome — and only Gnome, although that does include ancillary software and the login manager — as almost a gigabyte and a half. I knew it was chunky, but I didn’t realize it was obese.

But that’s only in my estimation, and I have been called insane about these things. I take it as a compliment. :mrgreen:

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5 Responses to “Two somewhat important facts”


  1. 1 Spammer 2009/09/29 at 11:13 PM

    Allow me to spam.

    It’s not even including Mono and friends :)

  2. 2 opticvoid 2009/09/30 at 12:31 AM

    Actually, I am surprised that Gnome is that small. I wonder if it will get smaller now that it defaults to using Webkit.

    • 3 mulenmar 2009/09/30 at 1:46 AM

      The only thing that would affect would be Ephiphany, wouldn’t it? And maybe Yelp — don’t know if that uses HTML.

      For that matter, even if it’s faster, I don’t know if Webkit is any smaller than Gecko. *runs off to do research*

  3. 4 ArmorNick 2009/09/30 at 2:46 AM

    What a surprise; Gnome is bloated.. ;)

    About that other thing (since nobody mentioned it yet), I’m starting to find that things are a little backwards there. Compilation gets faster every time a new processor enters the game, yet people always compile less and less. Where’s the reasoning, huh? :D

    • 5 ArmorNick 2009/09/30 at 2:48 AM

      Oh, btw, you could always have left some of the apps out of gnome and gnome-extra. Things like orca and empathy are worthless if you don’t use them. Either way, 1 GB isn’t really that much for people like me who’ve got several hundreds of gigabyte ;)


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